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Article: 13925 of comp.protocols.kermit.misc
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From: colive@technologEase.com (Chris Olive)
Newsgroups: comp.os.vms,comp.protocols.kermit.misc
Subject: Re: totally OT: terminal emulators
Date: 4 Dec 2002 11:12:17 -0800
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tom.horsley@att.net (Thomas A. Horsley) wrote in message news:<usmxe4tj3.fsf@att.net>...
> >: Since I'm here, I wouldn't mind hearing someone, maybe even FdC,
> >: provide a tit-for-tat on Kermit versus PuTTY.
>
> I use both of them.
>
> The big advantage of PuTTY is that it is simpler to fool with and
> it supports agent proxies (so when I have to go through multiple
> ssh firewalls, I can get all the keys loaded up as I go).
>
> The big advantage of kermit (to me) is scripting and file transfer. If you
> are ssh'ed over multiple connections (or dialed up, ssh'ed, telnetted, and
> rlogined :-), kermit works to transfer files over the path you already have
> established. Most of the ssh based file transfer tools either only work over
> a single hop or require fantastically long commands to specify all the
> multi-hop connections.
>
> The one catch to this is that the kermit agent doesn't support proxy
> connections (hint, hint :-), so it is more trouble to get kermit connected
> over those multiple hops, but once connected, you can do more (and if you
> never logout and log back in, it isn't a big deal since you have to type all
> the keys at least once in any case).
Your review here and FdC's review and link were both enlightening. I
understand Frank's comment that PuTTY does 10% of what Kermit does
(esp. after looking over the comparision link he handed out.) But
that 10% is all I need. Kermit -- pardon the comparision -- is like
having all the features of MS Word when all I need to do is type
memos. (The analogy totally breaks down though in that I suspect all
of Kermit's features actually WORK, whereas I wouldn't place a $2 bet
on any piece of Microsoft pretendware.)
The point that one could learn one product (Kermit) on multiple
platforms though... that's a compeling thought. In the DOS and VMS
world, Kermit was what I once lived by and I do have very good
memories of it. Who knows, Frank, I may take Kermie for a spin again.
And I really think Jeffery deserves a cash incentive for writing in
proxy support... 8-)
Chris
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Raytheon Technical Services Corporation
Indianapolis, IN
Personal email: chris at technologEase dot com
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